On 10/06/2017 04:40, MH Michael Hammer (5304) wrote:
> Tom,
>
> Absent providing any other data points, how does this tie in with DMARC doing damage?
Hard to tell without looking at the detailed mail headers after
btconnect has classified a message as junk.
Brian
>
> Mike
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of tom p.
>> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 12:01 PM
>> To: Brian E Carpenter; IETF discussion list; Shishio Tsuchiya
>> Subject: Re: Real DMARC damage
>>
>> Resurrecting an old thread ....
>>
>> Something just changed. In the past week, my ESP has decided that anything
>> with a domain name of 'google.com' in 'From:' is junk and should not be
>> forwarded to me.
>>
>> Previously, the only such mail to be wrongly classified as junk was that from a
>> rival manufacturer (which had a certain logic to it:-).
>>
>> I had been wondering why the discussion on the IPv6 list about 64-bit
>> boundaries was so disjointed and I now see that half of it, the google.com
>> half, was no longer reaching me.
>>
>> AFAIK there is nothing I can do to influence the ESP to change its mind.
>> I have been reclassifying individual e-mail from that other manufacturer as
>> not-junk for years and my ESP takes not a blind bit of notice.
>>
>> So yes, real damage to the IETF.
>>
>> Tom Petch
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Shishio Tsuchiya" <shtsuchi@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Brian E Carpenter" <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx>; "IETF discussion list"
>> <ietf@xxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 3:42 AM
>>
>>> As far as I know,
>>> google.com
>>> microsoft.com
>>> yahoo.com
>>> aol.com
>>> are already p=reject
>>>
>>> arista.com is p=quarantine.
>>>
>>> I think google.com is one of great contributor of ietf mailing list
>> but
>>> sometimes old mailing list suspect the mail as spam .
>>> I recovered some mail from my spam folder.
>>> I hope the mailman update to new one.
>>> https://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC
>>>
>>> Does this mail also suspect spam?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> -Shishio
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2017/04/30 6:01, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>>> Am I the only IETF list admin who's had to deal with genuine DMARC
>> damage today?
>>>>
>>>> gen-art@xxxxxxxx had four subscriptions suspended for excessive
>> bounces, all caused
>>>> by mail from one participant whose sending domain has published a
>> p=reject policy
>>>>
>>>> Bizarrely, one of the subscriptions disabled was @gmane.org. It's a
>> very strange
>>>> choice for them to respect p=reject.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Brian Carpenter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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