Tom, Absent providing any other data points, how does this tie in with DMARC doing damage? Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of tom p. > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 12:01 PM > To: Brian E Carpenter; IETF discussion list; Shishio Tsuchiya > Subject: Re: Real DMARC damage > > Resurrecting an old thread .... > > Something just changed. In the past week, my ESP has decided that anything > with a domain name of 'google.com' in 'From:' is junk and should not be > forwarded to me. > > Previously, the only such mail to be wrongly classified as junk was that from a > rival manufacturer (which had a certain logic to it:-). > > I had been wondering why the discussion on the IPv6 list about 64-bit > boundaries was so disjointed and I now see that half of it, the google.com > half, was no longer reaching me. > > AFAIK there is nothing I can do to influence the ESP to change its mind. > I have been reclassifying individual e-mail from that other manufacturer as > not-junk for years and my ESP takes not a blind bit of notice. > > So yes, real damage to the IETF. > > Tom Petch > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shishio Tsuchiya" <shtsuchi@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Brian E Carpenter" <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx>; "IETF discussion list" > <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 3:42 AM > > > As far as I know, > > google.com > > microsoft.com > > yahoo.com > > aol.com > > are already p=reject > > > > arista.com is p=quarantine. > > > > I think google.com is one of great contributor of ietf mailing list > but > > sometimes old mailing list suspect the mail as spam . > > I recovered some mail from my spam folder. > > I hope the mailman update to new one. > > https://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC > > > > Does this mail also suspect spam? > > > > Regards, > > -Shishio > > > > > > On 2017/04/30 6:01, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > > Am I the only IETF list admin who's had to deal with genuine DMARC > damage today? > > > > > > gen-art@xxxxxxxx had four subscriptions suspended for excessive > bounces, all caused > > > by mail from one participant whose sending domain has published a > p=reject policy > > > > > > Bizarrely, one of the subscriptions disabled was @gmane.org. It's a > very strange > > > choice for them to respect p=reject. > > > > > > Regards > > > Brian Carpenter > > > > > > > > > > >