On 4/19/17 08:02, Dave Crocker wrote: > On 4/19/2017 7:53 AM, joel jaeggli wrote: >> Time to meet and space work with your co-authors and collaborators is a >> pretty important part of why IETF meetings have any value at all to me >> as an individual contributor. > > If there is serious interest in having more unstructured time > available, remove less-productive wg sessions and reconsider carefully > each of the ewstablished 'extra-curricular' time slots that are > scheduled -- my own favorite target is Bits-n-Bites -- for possible > elimination. > > There is relatively little filtering on working group slot requests, > and worse there's no real aid for working group chairs, to help them > plan and manage sessions more effectively. fwiw, slot requests are considerably earlier in the pipeline then agenda formation. As an AD I was relatively assiduous at working with my chairs to cancel working group slots where the agenda/acitivity didn't justify meeting (beyond the case of the empty agenda that's probably somewhat subjective). > We periodically have public discussions about this latter issue and > there are documents that say the right things. However chairs often > have little experience with such 'project' management and few have -- > or should be expected to have -- natural talents in that arena. > > Professional project planning and management assistance for chairs, > and careful vetting of wg progress as a filter for wg time requests, > would produce fewer and shorter sessions and better use of time. > > > d/
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