I've done remote meetings going back to the days of when we had to make mbone work first. (it worked once!!!) I've probably done a dozen or so remote meetings. Loa Andersson <loa@xxxxx> wrote: > Let me first say that I very much appreciate the effort made by > e.g. the meetecho people. The experience of listening to a meeting on > meetecho and sitting in the room listening is very close. All the time > until someone that sits in the middle of the room don't care to go the > mike to make a comment, but just shout it out. When this happens you > just don't lose the comment, but you also lose much of the context for > the continued discussion. Right, so this is why it's better for everyone to be remote. > It quite often happens (it has happened to me) that someone notify the > chairs that "there is someone wanting to say something on the > meetecho", only when that happens that particular discussion is already > "taken to the list". Yes, bad chair discipline. > But an IETF meeting is so much more than the moderate number of hours > you spend in meeting rooms, if you participate remotely you miss what > is probably the most important aspect of an IETF F2F - the 10-15 > corridor meetings you have each day. I totally agree. > I'd say cancel SFO and move to place where we all have an equal chance > to attend, even if you have made a business trip to Iran or somewhere > else in the Middle East, and where we don't have to give out passwords > to e.g. laptops that may contain business critical information. If we can do that, I agree. Lets do that. If we can't outright cancel, but can renegotiate significantly, my suggestion stands. Move the meeting and make SFO a US left-coast remote hub. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
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