On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 04:29:38PM +0000, nalini.elkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <nalini.elkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote a message of 34 lines which said: > If anyone is interested, we have just done an I-D for a proposed > concept for "Internet Labs". We hope this will be of interest. That's interesting, there is certainly a need for more resources for the people who want to work on the practical side of the Internet protocols. > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chowbat-irl-00 I find the proposal both too detailed ("access to IRL labs" with discussion of CLI vs Blackberry...) and too vague. What will be the actual services provided by these labs? There are a lot of resources already available. (Really a lot: may be the poeple who want to learn/work could use some guidance.) Did you identify actual gaps (ideas: real-time BGP feed, repository of packet captures, since pcapr.net seems de facto dead, etc)? Editorial: for cloud services, please mention also non-US services (like OVH or Gandi in France, examples from China, Russia, India, are welcome).