On 2017-2-16, at 8:08, Eggert, Lars <lars@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> How is this different from codestand? >As in https://codestand.ietf.org/codestand/ Lars, I believe this is what started as the CodeMatch project. We definitely want to work with them to showcase the work they have done. But, my understanding of CodeStand was that it was a "dating service" to match people who wanted code done with people who wanted to do code. Our concept is a bit different. The idea is that if you want to see, for example, how TLS1.3 looks like without having to do all the implementation yourself, you can use one of the Internet Labs and be guided through. Everything you need will be installed, including Wireshark, or another network analysis tool. Does that make sense? Nalini On Feb 15, 2017, at 17:30, "nalini.elkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <nalini.elkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> All, >> >> If anyone is interested, we have just done an I-D for a proposed concept for "Internet Labs". We hope this will be of interest. >> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chowbat-irl-00 >> >> The abstract is here: >> >> Many people learn technical concepts best in a hands-on environment, >> and Internet protocols and standards are no exception. Internet >> Research Labs (IRL) will facilitate a platform and encourage the >> technical community (seasoned professionals and newcomers alike) to >> discuss, collaborate, design and develop utilities, ideas, sample >> code and solutions that show practical implementations (Proof of >> Concept) of existing IETF standards. These labs may also be used by >> the IETF Mentoring Program and/or EDU teams for hands-on training to >> mentees or newcomers. This base draft intends to provide a high-level >> overview of the concept of Internet Research Labs in terms of >> objectives, requirements, challenges and deliverables without going >> into details of a specific lab, technology or an IETF Working Group >> (WG). After this draft matures and gains traction within the IETF >> community, we foresee more and more Internet drafts for the specific >> labs. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Nalini Elkins >> Inside Products, Inc. >> www.insidethestack.com >> (831) 659-8360 >> >