On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:There are certainly conferences that help by providing information about chlidcare (frequently available through the hotel or such) or even organizing joint childcare. Strangely enough, that helps increase the participation of those with young children and childcare responsibilities (frequently women). I am not requesting that the IAOC do so - though certainly gathering information about childcare one time for use by many would be helpful.TBH, this seems much more generally useful to me than optimizing for the case of bringing the family along as support for the same thing, which seems like a fairly heavy lift for many likely IETF participants in comparison.
Yes - and I have requested it a few times. I don't need it now and so feel it is easier to request. That said, it is a way of being more opening - and the IAOC is juggling quite a few other things right now.
The case of a nursing adoptive mother seems like a real corner case in the sense that I am not aware of any countries the IETF is likely to ever go to that would not recognize the nursing mother's parental rights.
LBGT - two women who have both adopted the child? A transgender man who is nursing? But, as Melinda pointed out, this is a rat-hole.
The key point is that there are reasons that folks spend significant money to bring along a child and caregiver - and those shouldn't be glibly dismissed as "playing tourist or taking a vacation".
To me, the question around Singapore is what are the realities of enforcement and are we playing a double-standard between what many of us sadly just accept in the US versus what is on the books in Singapore. I've certainly read of far too many horror stories of families traveling in the US who ran into medical emergencies.
Regards,
Alia