>> why? vegas seems an ok us venue. maybe tacky, but we're not so high >> society ourselves. > > Often, companies cannot let their people go to "party locations", even > if they know the conference is real and the employees are there doing > work. Corporate policies banning those locations tend to trump that. i am not sure i would want to work for a manager who thought vegas was a leisure destination. but i had not considered this aspect. i consider vegas to be a form of hell; but it works well for conferences. i suspect there is a correlation between very large all-in-one hotels and the perception of a leisure destination. back to bob's point that we have placed whole lot of conditions. randy