Some of the largest conventions in the world are held in Las Vegas. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-01-02/ces-the-world-s-largest-trade-show-is-too-big-for-vegas.html Back when I worked for Interop we certainly didn't seem to lose attendees after moving the show to Vegas, of course I do agree that it is a special form of hell on earth, but if the requirement is one roof, cheap hotel rates, and "getting work done," Vegas fits the bill. On the topic of tourist destinations, let me just add that Orlando was a special case (co-location with IEEE, *they* not we chose the venue), and in some sense so was Hawaii (resulted from much discussion in the IESG). Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher The Internet Protocol Journal Office: +1 415-550-9433 Cell: +1 415-370-4628 docomo: (090) 3337-9311 Web: protocoljournal.org E-mail: olejacobsen@xxxxxx On Thu, 7 Jan 2016, Randy Bush wrote: > >> why? vegas seems an ok us venue. maybe tacky, but we're not so high > >> society ourselves. > > > > Often, companies cannot let their people go to "party locations", even > > if they know the conference is real and the employees are there doing > > work. Corporate policies banning those locations tend to trump that. > > i am not sure i would want to work for a manager who thought vegas was a > leisure destination. > > but i had not considered this aspect. i consider vegas to be a form of > hell; but it works well for conferences. > > i suspect there is a correlation between very large all-in-one hotels > and the perception of a leisure destination. back to bob's point that > we have placed whole lot of conditions. > > randy > >