Vegas .. Sure you can negotiate reasonable room rates for a block as large excellent direct connections as our and goodness knows the food is superb. I’d add barbecue to the list of possible matrix of requirements. That adds Kansas City and Austin TX Memphis and Charlotte NC to the mix and they are not as cold as Minneapolis. Germany does actually meet the requirements. Schweinshaxe is one of the glories of German/Austrian civilization. Quebec of course for all things Duck. Actually that should be the first requirement. “Yes dear ..what are you hungry for?” — On 1/6/16, 6:02 PM, "ietf on behalf of Randy Bush" <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx on behalf of randy@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> Avoid places like Las Vegas and Macau > >why? vegas seems an ok us venue. maybe tacky, but we're not so high >society ourselves. > >and places such as KL / petaling jaya have great facilities, are easy to >reach, are cheap, and make most visas easy. > >randy >