--On Tuesday, January 05, 2016 13:06 -0800 IETF Administrative Director <iad@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > The IAOC is pleased to announce the selection of venues for the > following IEF meetings: >... > IETF 111: San Francisco July 25 - 30 2021 Ray, Reflecting on the current discussion of hotels and observing that several people have expressed concern about statements like "can't do anything to change the policies or affect that date or location because we are working three years out", does this imply that you and the IAOC are making commitments we could not change if we wanted to (even if circumstances changed) 5 1/2 years out. I'm all in favor of pinning down dates well in advance but, when we start talking about commitments to "venues", it is a source of some small anxiety. john