On 12/18/2015 9:44 AM, Michal Krsek wrote: > If we want to open the IETF to "foreigners" we need to go there The IETF already goes everywhere and always has. Mailing lists are open to all, free, accessible everywhere, and remain the formal base of authority for working group decisions. As for the recruiting benefits of having a face-to-face meeting in a new area of the world, it is an entirely appealing idea, but I believe there is no objective data demonstrating that this is effective, or at least none within the last 15 years. The basic rule is supposed to be that we go where the workers /already/ are (or, at least where they already are emerging from.) The alternative is to inconvenience 1200-1500 existing participants on the very high-risk gamble that the IETF will pick up a few new ones. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net