Let me add another point of view. And it is geographic.
I do not believe Internet is US effort (for decades) nor effort being
funded by big global corporations (hopefully). If we want to open the
IETF to "foreigners" we need to go there (with the price causing
difficulties to incumbent geeks). Be sure - it is harder to visit IETF
if you are male engineer living to India than female engineer living to
San Francisco.
I'd strongly propose to go to new locations (as I saw a lot of new
activities here after IETF came first time), and tune-up the remote
participation systems.
And - it would be great if IOAC/AMS is providing as much information as
possible, but I do not expect they are our babysitters. I'm always
responsible to find a suitable hotel, tickets and cost of living each
IETF according the budget (which is sometimes 0, so I'm not coming).
If we want to be closed group, let's select Minneapolis three times per
year and we are done. Everything is a kind of compromise, do not be selfish.
No jokes here, please not be offended by ordinary english.
Michal (speaking as "foreginer")
P.S: It is almost sure I'm not coming to BA as it is most likely over my
budget, but I still think this location is good for the IETF and for the
Internet.
Dne 18.12.2015 v 18:20 Warren Kumari napsal(a):
So, I suspect that at least part of this is caused by there being a
number of different incentives at work / people optimizing for a
number of different things[0].
5: Some set of folk think that planning a meeting and choosing a
location is easy. If you open a browser and type in "hotel" there are
many, many results. This *surely* means that we can easily find one
that will take out money. After all, we are a "prestigious"
organization, no hotel is going to give up a thousand or so guaranteed
guests, and, well, the $confernce met there a few years ago.
Unfortunately $confernce is not the same as the IETF. There are many
many constraints and tradeoffs that the IETF meeting planners have to
take into account. I'm part of the NOC team and regularly chat with
someone who is involved in some of the site selection. One of my
favorite games is "Why don't we go to XXX?" - fairly much anywhere I
suggest has already been considered, and there are good reasons (often
surprising) that it has been disqualified.
Believe it or not, the meeting selection committee / IOAC is not
sitting around scratching their armpits and / or optimizing for ways
to make people sad...
W