> On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:41 AM 11/16/15, Stewart Bryant (stbryant) <stbryant@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Scott, > > You are absolutely correct. I agree, as well... > > An interesting question is whether we could design a distributed system that achieves the same effect at the same (or better) quality? > > For example, could we achieve the same effect by convening a review panel for each ID consisting of one or two members of the directorate of every area? I think ADs could take this action independently, if they choose to and without any formalism, under the more general umbrella of delegating responsibility to the directorates... - Ralph > > -Stewart > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 15 Nov 2015, at 20:11, Scott O. Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Maybe I missed it, but I do not recall seeing mention in this thread of a significant aspect >> of an ADs role – reviewing documents from outside there area – i.e., the >> cross-jurisdictional review step that the IESG review represents. >> >> This is a major differentiator between the IETF and most other IT >> standards development organizations. In most other organizations >> the only technical expertise applied to a proposal comes from within a >> working group (working party etc) – a group that will always have a >> limited scope of expertise >> >> The IESG’s cross-area review ensures that proposals undergo >> review by experts in areas that will likely not be represented within >> a particular working group. >> >> Documents, no matter how clearly written, produced by an individual >> working group, no matter the level of subject matter expertise, can >> benefit from careful review by experts who have expertise outside the >> scope of the people participating in the working group. >> >> When I was an AD (a rather long time ago now) I saw many documents >> where inadequate attention had been paid to security, congestion control, >> manageability, etc. >> >> i.e., it is not sufficient to say, as has been said during this thread, that the >> onus should fall on a working group chair to ensure the quality of the >> documents that are produced by a working group, the best documents >> can be made better, in terms of being used on the Internet, by the >> cross-area review done by the IESG. >> >> Scott >