Jari, The question I was trying to ask via Jabber during the plenary was about the Apps + RealTime -> ART reorganization. When that was announced a year or so ago along with the decision to reduce the number of ADs in the combined area from four to three, my understanding was that the IESG intended to further review the situation, make a longer-term plan, and discuss it with the community. That evaluation and plan is particularly important to those of us who believe that, long-term, areas with three or more ADs tend to be too complex to follow and reduce the possibility for accountability. AFAICT, we haven't heard more on that subject from the IESG since the "new IESG" was seated in March. I can't speak for others, but I, at least, would like to hear from the IESG about this and, because it might affect some of our evaluations of incumbents for the Nomcom, hear soon. john