Re: I-D Action: draft-crocker-rfc2418bis-wgguidelines-01.txt

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Dave,

> So I hope that the energy you folk are currently putting into arguing about process formalities can instead be channeled into
> the substance of the draft.

I don't care about the formalities. I care about the fact that I can't
understand in detail from the draft what it intends to change in the way
WGs operate and, incidentally, what text in RFC 2418 is wrong in practice.

Speaking for myself, I could never accede to a consensus on this draft
without that understanding. You want me to "react to it in its entirety."
My reaction is that I don't understand what problems it fixes.

Now I have a rotten track record in this area. About ten years ago I
wanted to trigger an update of RFC 2026, and decided that the way to do
it was to write a careful analysis of its defects. I won't bore everybody
with the details, but basically I failed. I think the reason I failed
was because my analysis was just Too Much Information. Subsequent reformers
have done better by fixing one thing at a time, but RFC 2026 is even less
a description of what we actually do now than it was 10 years ago.

For anybody who thinks this is all very simple, please review
http://www.ietf.org/about/process-docs.html

Oh, and to be clear: thanks for working on this. It does matter.

Regards
   Brian




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