I have the hope that IETF participant behavior on a hotel WiFi will over time turn into a "boring" guest - compared to eg: the kids who have to talk with their parents in the same hotel suite via video streaming on teir smartphone and watching netflix and the like. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:18:13PM -0500, Adam Roach wrote: > On 8/17/15 11:48, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > >Speaking from personal experience, I have always found Internet access > >in Japanese hotels to be quite excellent even without these upgrades > >by our NOC team. > > I suspect that the historically destroyed Internet connections in many > of the overflow hotels -- and the Maastrict hotel for that matter -- are > perfectly adequate for a normal mix of guests. I find it difficult to > believe that you could accurately judge what a hotel's performance would > be without a load similar to what IETF attendees typically bring with them. > > To be clear, issues rise above those of simple bandwidth saturation. > Most commonly, I've seen things that I suspect are DHCP pool exhaustion > (with results ranging from issuing duplicate addresses (!) to simply > being unable to get an address) and NAT port exhaustion (leading to the > inability to make or maintain connections). We bring a unique set of > stresses to an infrastructure that are way outside the normal envelope. > > /a -- --- Toerless Eckert, eckert@xxxxxxxxx