Usually, ietf-draft authors that pay in ietf-meetings will get the best outcome from their efforts and get more interests from the world. Remote participants need to be encouraged/increased so making it free is an excellent ietf-strategy currently. IMHO, the utilization&fee issue is not in the side of remote participants but is in the side of the f2f participants, because it is still not totally-managed by session/meeting chairs within IETF meetings (which may be a very good approach for flexibility). IETF meetings are productive and efficient but could we make more effort to increase that? we may think to add fees on draft-authors that need more than 10 minutes to present their-work/wg-draft? Is it possible to chair a session and you get 20 participants lined up while that draft presentation was scheduled for 15 minutes. Or may I "line up" for a long time with no much expectation of how long it will take while the queue has 3 only. Could we have in IETF a determination of best practice maximum input time per f2f participant per draft. I suggest that IETF management guide session chairs to announce maximum input duration time per draft per meeting-participant, so we can get the highest efficiency per session/WG-meeting. AB On 2/15/15, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, > > It can't be that difficult to make a tool that everyone (including those > participating f2f) use to "line up" behind the microphone. > > Many virtual meeting tools already provide a raise-your-hand feature. > > Regards, > > Christer > > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ted Lemon > Sent: 15 February 2015 04:11 > To: John Leslie > Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Remote participation fees > > On Feb 14, 2015, at 5:51 PM, John Leslie <john@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> Is there anybody besides the Meetecho folks whose task it is to >> "make it work"? Is there anybody _including_ the Meetecho folks who >> has the ability to arrange similar priority at the mike to that of >> on-site participants? > > A tremendous amount of work goes on behind the scenes to make this work, not > just the meetecho folks. I remember reporting a problem in a meeting and > having Alexa show up five minutes later checking to see if it was fixed, and > I know that other folks from AMS and from the NOC work hard on this. > >