On 2/25/15 8:04 AM, Ted Lemon wrote: > But the expectation that someone will approach you is kind of absurd. That's nonsense, Ted. Nobody's saying "You didn't approach *me*". What we're saying is that there are questions about where the list of technologies came from, particularly given that 1) they're for the most part technologies that have not been adopted as IETF deliverables, and 2) they appear more aligned with Cisco's efforts than with anything the IETF is doing. If Cisco wants to have a Cisco hackathon coinciding with an IETF meeting, awesome, but let's not pretend this is an IETF event. Who's paying for the room, the network, the food, the ... ? I think an *IETF* hackathon is a great idea. But between the extremely late scheduling and the really weird content, this looks like kind of a mess. Might have made more sense to wait until summer, give the thing a better chance of success because of better planning. Melinda