On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Thomas Nadeau <tnadeau@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > No one approached us for this either. Nobody has visibility into all the activities of the IETF. The way volunteer organizations work is that people scratch their own itch, and hopefully it's of collective benefit. If this hackathon is a good idea (as a lot of people seem to believe) then it would be great if, now that it's been floated and is going to be tried, the next hackathon had more broad involvement of the community. But the expectation that someone will approach you is kind of absurd. If you want to be involved, approach the people who are already involved. Don't wait for them to approach you. Of course, you didn't know about this in advance--the first I heard of it was less than a week ago. But now you know, and there are plans to do this at IETF 93; if you think a general hackathon framework at the IETF would be a good place for the yang hackathon work you are doing, then you should be involved in planning the IETF 93 hackathon.