Re: Sunday tutorials, newcomers, and remote participants

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FWIW, I completely agree with Dave's additional point.  I'm less
enthused about remote video generally but, for this case, agree
with Mikael as well.   In particular, for the newcomer's
introduction itself, I think it would be far more beneficial to
get all the glitches ironed out and do a really professional job
that people could see/review well in advance rather than
concentrating on squeezing something into an increasingly-busy
Sunday afternoon schedule.  The usual RFC Editor tools tutorial
would be another key example of the same thing.

best,
   john


--On Saturday, 08 November, 2014 08:13 -0800 Dave Crocker
<dcrocker@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 11/8/2014 5:10 AM, John C Klensin wrote:
>> Done well, they have the potential to be immensely helpful to
>> people not familiar with a particular topic (or the IETF in
>> general).  
> ...
>> We've also been told, repeatedly, that, for those not
>> extremely able in listening to spoken English, having slides
>> and other materials available in advance is extremely
>> helpful, even to the point of making the difference between a
>> session that is understood and one that is an
>> incomprehensible waste of time.
> 
> 
> +1 to John's observations and request, but there's a point
> worth adding:
> 
>      Most of these tutorials have continuing benefit.
> 
>      It would be nice for someone to be able to 'attend' the
> tutorial in 2 weeks, 2 months and in 2 years.
> 
> Some of the tutorials won't have value in 2 years, but most
> will, IMO.
> 
> In other words, we should treat tutorials as an investment,
> not just a consumable good, and we should record them,
> building an archive of introductory material.
> 
> d/





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