--On Saturday, November 08, 2014 14:54 +0000 "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Some tutorials from the past (slides and video for some) are > available at https://www.ietf.org/edu/tutorials.html. Dan, I know that but it is hard to mistake me for a newcomer. Part of the point is that we tell people to consult the tools agenda and/or meeting materials page. If things aren't there, they can't be found by anyone who lacks a lot of history and therefore, in practical terms, don't exist. And, of course, while previous slides and/or videos might be helpful to guess what might be said this time, they are not really a substitute for contemporary materials. I don't know what the IESG would do to a WG chair who said "I don't need to post an agenda this time because previous agendas and minutes are online", but I'd hope the word "fire" would be part of the conversation. > I agree with John that it would be good to have the materials > posted in advance and have them included also in the > proceedings. thanks, john