Actually bringing up W3C is good. Now I know how to pitch going to IETF 81 On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Mary Barnes <mary.h.barnes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Eric Burger <eburger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: >> >> On Oct 1, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Mary Barnes <mary.h.barnes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 11:58:53AM -0500, Mary Barnes wrote: >>> > [MB] I just registered for a W3C meeting and that was $75.00/day and >>> > they >>> > will be providing me a gluten-free lunch. So, that would be $600 for 6 >>> > meeting days. [/MB] >>> >>> As Ray pointed out, however, the fruit:vegetable comparison issues >>> show up pretty quickly, even with other SDOs working in similar areas. >>> W3C, for example, is a membership organization, and so it not only has >>> the meeting fees but also the corporate fees (which, for US firms, is >>> either $2250, $7900, or $68500 per year). >> >> [MB] Actually, I'm attending the meetings as an observer, although, I >> think I'm now legally an individual participant (since I own no IPR, those >> terms were easy to agree with). That's something most other membership >> based SDOs don't allow. In these roles, I'm not required to pay a >> membership fee in order to attend meetings. [/MB] >> >> >> The equivalent would be if we let you come to an IETF meeting where you >> would not be allowed to talk or contribute to consensus. > > [MB] In the vast majority of WG sessions, that seems to be what the majority > of participants do. Many come to IETF because it's an optimal way to get the > information they need to do their jobs and to network. > [/MB] > >> >> Remember, W3C is a membership organization, and consensus is (when things >> go south) by member (corporate) vote. > > [MB] You're the one that brought W3C into this thread ;) I responded based > on my own experience that it is indeed much less expensive for me to go to a > W3C meeting to achieve the objectives for my job. [/MB] >