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It is described.

http://www.ietf.org/id-info/guidelines.html#naming and Section 7 of http://www.ietf.org/ietf-ftp/1id-guidelines.txt



On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:08 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> 
> --On Wednesday, September 03, 2014 04:25 +0000 "Fred Baker
> (fred)" <fred@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Sep 3, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Nico Williams
>> <nico@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> A lot of WGs and WG work items start life as individual
>>> submission I-Ds. The tracker nowadays tracks their
>>> transformation into WG work items.
>> 
>> yes, but... there are individual submissions and individual
>> submissions.
>> 
>> A draft named "draft-myname-mytopic" is a draft on mytopic
>> submitted by byname.  A draft named
>> "draft-myname-targetgroup-mytopic" is a draft on mytopic
>> submitted by byname to targetgroup. 
>> 
>> In the first case, the onus is pretty much on the author to
>> get someone to read it. In the second case, assuming a working
>> group or other list is notified, can reasonably expect someone
>> to actually read it.
> 
> Fred, I think this is a great model and that close
> approximations to it have served us well in the past.   However,
> since we have gone to an automated system, there is no
> enforcement of that naming model, even by takedown, and it is
> not even well-publicized.  If we were serious about it, it
> should at least be described somewhere (the posting page if
> nowhere else), software should make at least a minimal effort to
> remind people of it (e.g., when a draft is uploaded who third
> component matches a WG or similar acronym, the posting software
> might explicitly ask if that targetgroup is an intended target
> and, if desired, send out an announcement to that group), and/or
> there should be a takedown procedure for documents whose names
> deviate from the rules sufficiently to create confusion.
> 
> Instead, we have seen
>   draft-authorname1-authorname2-targetgroup-mytopic
>   draft-crypticacronym-mytopic
>   draft-MadeUpOrganization-MadeUpGroup-CrypticTopic
> etc., which don't help.
> 
>    john
> 
> 
> 

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