Counterpoint: I know of a 20person company that ran off google apps and gmail (under an owned domain) for over a year, and are only transitioning off it to inhouse corporate Exchange after the subsequent acquisition and IPO. Many use these services, because they're better and more reliable for their purposes than the alternatives available to them. They're making professional choices. Lloyd Wood http://about.me/lloydwood ________________________________________ From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> on behalf of Rich Kulawiec <rsk@xxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, 29 August 2014 10:11:01 PM To: IETF discussion list Subject: Re: gmail users read on... On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 05:05:53PM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > I hate to bring this topic up again but people should perhaps be aware > that some legitimate IETF mail is now being automatically spam filtered > for gmail recipients. Gmail, like Yahoo and Hotmail and AOL, is sporadically useful for casual purposes where mail transmission and receipt isn't terribly important. But it's much too poorly operated to be acceptable for professional use. And of course it's well-known that attempts to contact a clueful human behind the Google monolith are nearly always destined to fail. ---rsk