On Aug 12, 2014, at 9:40 PM, manning bill <bmanning@xxxxxxx> wrote: > why does it not work for you? are you being prevented from participating in multiple areas? Work being done in the IETF frequently needs cross-area review. Segregating the IETF into separate areas that do not meet together would make that sort of thing either impossible, or much harder for those willing to do it. Anyway, this is a solution in search of a problem. It is not clear to me that tourists are a significant problem at IETF meetings. Indeed, I would say that of the problems I'm aware of, tourists barely register. So whether or not encouraging tourists is architecturally clean, if it helps fund our work, I think it's a net positive and we should stop worrying about it. And anyway today's tourist is tomorrow's contributor.