On Jul 2, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Fred Baker (fred) <fred@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Jul 2, 2014, at 11:15 AM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> At the time that waterspring was set up we didn't archive old versions of I-Ds and once an I-D had expired it disappeared (related issues, but separately annoying). That is no longer the case, so the (UI aside) the main residual value would be retrieving the archive of old I-Ds and I am not so sure how useful that is, but archivists and IPR lawyers might comment). > > Do we have a place I can download that from? Yes, https://tools.ietf.org says: "• Unpurged IETF drafts repository: To list the content, do: rsync rsync.tools.ietf.org::tools.id To sync the content, do: rsync -avz rsync.tools.ietf.org::tools.id ./id" It contains more stuff than Watersprings (back when Watersprings was running) and I have been rsync'ing with it for a couple of years. It's about 4.5GB of content. > Watersprings lets you download any given draft that it has that you want, but to my knowledge doesn’t allow for a block download/rsync. The IETF used to have such a place, and deleted it. I discovered that by accident when I deleted my mirror with a view to recovering from the IETF. Oops. > > I have something I got from Scott Bradner, which is probably complete or mostly complete, but which I have found holes in and filled. My problem is that I don’t know what I don’t know. -d