Stephen, On 12/13/13 2:35 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > Cool. Added to my to-do list. [1] > > Be interested in knowing if you're also ok with the earlier > suggested change? [2] I think that matches well with adding > the above as well. I *did* state that I wasn't married even to my own text, and the change you reference in [2] is definitely in the right direction. To be clear, there are many reasons why it is helpful to have data in the clear, not just monitoring. A good example is network caching (be it DNS or HTTP or whatever). I don't think you need to go into all of these examples so long as we amongst ourselves understand that we're not outlawing this sort of thing that people need to do to scale or preserve bandwidth. On that basis I can live with [2], but if the IESG wants to wordsmith it, that's okay with me as well. I have no particular objection to Stewart's and Alissa's versions either, although I understand that you have concerns about that text. Eliot [1] http://down.dsg.cs.tcd.ie/misc/ppbcp-text-suggestions.txt [2] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg84888.html