On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 05:36:19PM -0800, Dave Crocker wrote: > Sorry, but an organization that opens with, "/1net is hosting a free > and open online forum about the future of Internet governance" ought > to know the basics. DNSSEC and IPv6 probably aren't within that > very constrained set of skills. Certificate handling might or might > not be. Clear Whois data most definitely is. Supposing I grant that, though, the question is not what we can laugh at harder, but what we can do about it. That was my challenge, Dave. I'm not sure how I could have stated it more clearly. But perhaps I can: do you want to stand outside adding yet more, ahem, liquid, or do you want to go inside the tent on the principle that you can then be one of the people pointing out where the tent-poles ought to be? Also, > set of supporting statements from very well-known folk who have why? Why should this be an effort of the great and glorious? I'm tired of the great and glorious and the halls of fame and the we-were-there-when crowd. Why shouldn't this be an effort of those today interested in doing what we can do now? There's a mailing list. Why shouldn't we work there, at least for now, as collaboratively as possible? Best, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx