Fred, On 15/10/2013 06:38, Templin, Fred L wrote: ... >> We could have that discussion in 6man, sure, but I don't believe that >> it's >> relevant to the question of whether draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header- >> chain >> is ready. > > If it messes up tunnels, then it's not ready. That doesn't follow. See below. >> This draft mitigates a known problem in terms of the current >> IPv6 standards. > > If that problem is also mitigated by a measure that does not mess > up tunnels, then wouldn't that be worth considering before > finalizing this publication. The draft mitigates a known problem with communication paths that do not include nested tunnels requiring nested fragmentation, where the nested tunnel has to deal with an MTU <1280 *and* where the nested tunnel goes through a firewall that wants to analyse the complete header chain of the innermost packet. No, I don't think it's worth considering that case before specifying this mitigation. Brian