I agree with both, but maybe the problem is that people from academia are not participating enough to report to ADs their concerns (e.g. what is bad in ietf, or lack of diversity), on the other hand, people from industry are more organised and don't need/want the academians ideas/participations :-)
AB
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Riccardo Bernardini <framefritti@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:14 AM, George Michaelson <ggm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:I can confirm your theory, at least regarding me.
> Currently, IETF standards activity carries little or no weight for an
> academic career profile. It doesn't appear to have a weighting compared to
> peer review publication. I think this is a shame, because the contribution
> is as substantive, if not more so. And, since time is limited and choices
> have to be made, I believe good students/postdocs don't come into our space
> because the payback isn't there compared to submission into the peer-review
> process.
>
> (happy to be corrected. this is a belief, not a proven theory)
I come from academia. I came with some enthusiasm, happy to try to get
involved in IETF activities; I subscribed to few WG mailing list, but
after some time I discovered that (unfortunately) the payback for unit
of work was much less than just publishing scientific paper. So, I
unhappily unsubscribed from most of the ML and I stay here, lurking in
the background, waiting for some interesting subject...
Too bad.