Part of the question is whether the IETF is going to work with ICANN, IANA and the ccTLD to audit delegations for servers that are not RFC 103[45] compliant and suspend delegations where the servers are not compliant. * no responding to queries based on query type * not having a NS rrset at the delegation point Enforcing that ccTLD and ICANN TLD regularly audit delegations and have mismatches corrected. This is REQUIRED by RFC 1034 in part to stop the sorts of problems we are seeing today. We don't have to put up people putting up misconfigured / broken servers. For the non responding servers I have written draft-andrews-dns-no-response-issue to try to capture the issues. It was on the dnsop agenda for Berlin but didn't get covered as time ran out. I would like everyone to read it and comment on it. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@xxxxxxx