On 6/19/13 10:16 AM, Doug Barton wrote: > It's not clear to me how this example relates to the IETF. Even in fields in which the overwhelming majority of practitioners, the majority of people in leadership or management positions are men. Everybody's got good intentions - I'd be very surprised if anybody is sitting around consciously thinking that women are less capable of doing a good job in management than men. But you end up with some disturbing trends in aggregate. Meaning well really is not enough, and as I said my expectation is that we'll get a few cycles of trying to be more balanced but we won't get institutional change that would inhibit backsliding. > ... and while we're on that topic, what are you doing to help? That is truly an unfortunate line of argument, and I hope you don't use it very often. Melinda