I would take those numbers with a HUGE grain of salt (as Jari documents). For example, I've lived in Australia since 2006, and yet am only listed as producing RFCs in the USA. Regards, On 30/05/2013, at 10:39 AM, Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Lars, > > It was for Asia region, I thought its rate is between (5 - 50) > rfc/year for last 3 years. Basing on; The first figure of RFCs is the > Comparison of countries over the year [1], the second, is the > Distribution of number of RFCs per continent [2], the third is > publication rate per year [3]. For the I-Ds going in IETF is seen from > the distribution of drafts according to the countries of their authors > [4] and [5]. All figures make together the below conclusions, even > though some of them need more details for readers to understand. > > As from Figure [1] always one region (North America) is doing about > 200 rfc/year and the each of others may do between 5 - 50 rfc/year or > 50-100, but all together other regions do 150 rfc/year, so total > ietf-participation can be about 350 rfc/year. The Figure [2] is not > reasonable, not showing of years or period of such numbers. > > So my understanding is that for Europe-region and Asia-region, the > number of I-Ds rates are high compared to North America, but not the > rate of RFCs. I see that the total RFCs ietf-output rate (RFC/year) as > in Figure [3] for the last three years is about 350 rfc/year, so if > North America is having 200, the all others only will have about 150 > rfc/year. The total RFCs produced per countries is in Figure [6] is > reasonable but if compared with Figure [2] I get lost. > > From Figure [5] (also [4]) the number of I-Ds (now currently 2013 > outstanding) from Asia and Europe are about 600 and 1200 respectively > (let us add them up so =1800 ids), which I think only about 150 will > succeed (non-North America drafts). Furthermore, for North America the > I-Ds are 1500 ids and only 200 ids will succeed to become RFCs. I > think that Asia and Europe should have together about 250/year rfc not > 150 rfc/year. If we do more MARKETING effort we can make that rfc-rate > of other regions increase, but we already tried to increase North > America rate but it is stable for about 200 rfc/years. > > [1] http://www.arkko.com/tools/rfcstats/countrydistrhist.html > [2] http://www.arkko.com/tools/recrfcstats/d-contdistr.html > [3] http://arkko.com/tools/rfcstats/pubdistr.html > [4] http://www.arkko.com/tools/stats/d-countrydistr.html > [5] http://www.arkko.com/tools/stats/d-countryeudistr.html > [6] http://www.arkko.com/tools/rfcstats/d-countrydistr.html > > This lower participation from regions like Asia will continue because > most meeting are in North America, or most participants from North > America prefer to have face-face meeting locally, than to be remote to > other regions (not reasonable because they are writers in English very > well). Also other regions participants prefer to participate in > meetings not remotely (but that is reasonable because they are not > good in English Language Writting). It is also important that some > IETF management visit the other region participants for the progress > of their I-Ds. > > Please note that I don't claim that my analysis is all correct, but > trying to discuss it and get others to analyse as well or comment on > the figures/statistics. If you disagree or have any comment please > reply/advise. Thanking you, > > AB > > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Eggert, Lars <lars@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> On May 28, 2013, at 19:46, Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> by looking into the statistics of I-Ds and RFCs, it is strange that we get >>> sometimes high rate in the I-D going in IETF from some regions but the >>> success rate of I-Ds to become RFCs is very low (5- 50). >> >> which IDs and RFCs are you basing this statement on? >> >> Thanks, >> Lars -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/