Hi Lars, It was for Asia region, I thought its rate is between (5 - 50) rfc/year for last 3 years. Basing on; The first figure of RFCs is the Comparison of countries over the year [1], the second, is the Distribution of number of RFCs per continent [2], the third is publication rate per year [3]. For the I-Ds going in IETF is seen from the distribution of drafts according to the countries of their authors [4] and [5]. All figures make together the below conclusions, even though some of them need more details for readers to understand. As from Figure [1] always one region (North America) is doing about 200 rfc/year and the each of others may do between 5 - 50 rfc/year or 50-100, but all together other regions do 150 rfc/year, so total ietf-participation can be about 350 rfc/year. The Figure [2] is not reasonable, not showing of years or period of such numbers. So my understanding is that for Europe-region and Asia-region, the number of I-Ds rates are high compared to North America, but not the rate of RFCs. I see that the total RFCs ietf-output rate (RFC/year) as in Figure [3] for the last three years is about 350 rfc/year, so if North America is having 200, the all others only will have about 150 rfc/year. The total RFCs produced per countries is in Figure [6] is reasonable but if compared with Figure [2] I get lost. >From Figure [5] (also [4]) the number of I-Ds (now currently 2013 outstanding) from Asia and Europe are about 600 and 1200 respectively (let us add them up so =1800 ids), which I think only about 150 will succeed (non-North America drafts). Furthermore, for North America the I-Ds are 1500 ids and only 200 ids will succeed to become RFCs. I think that Asia and Europe should have together about 250/year rfc not 150 rfc/year. If we do more MARKETING effort we can make that rfc-rate of other regions increase, but we already tried to increase North America rate but it is stable for about 200 rfc/years. [1] http://www.arkko.com/tools/rfcstats/countrydistrhist.html [2] http://www.arkko.com/tools/recrfcstats/d-contdistr.html [3] http://arkko.com/tools/rfcstats/pubdistr.html [4] http://www.arkko.com/tools/stats/d-countrydistr.html [5] http://www.arkko.com/tools/stats/d-countryeudistr.html [6] http://www.arkko.com/tools/rfcstats/d-countrydistr.html This lower participation from regions like Asia will continue because most meeting are in North America, or most participants from North America prefer to have face-face meeting locally, than to be remote to other regions (not reasonable because they are writers in English very well). Also other regions participants prefer to participate in meetings not remotely (but that is reasonable because they are not good in English Language Writting). It is also important that some IETF management visit the other region participants for the progress of their I-Ds. Please note that I don't claim that my analysis is all correct, but trying to discuss it and get others to analyse as well or comment on the figures/statistics. If you disagree or have any comment please reply/advise. Thanking you, AB On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Eggert, Lars <lars@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi, > > On May 28, 2013, at 19:46, Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > by looking into the statistics of I-Ds and RFCs, it is strange that we get > > sometimes high rate in the I-D going in IETF from some regions but the > > success rate of I-Ds to become RFCs is very low (5- 50). > > which IDs and RFCs are you basing this statement on? > > Thanks, > Lars