On Mon, April 29, 2013 2:28 pm, Dave Crocker wrote: > On 4/29/2013 2:20 PM, Michael StJohns wrote: >> At 04:40 PM 4/29/2013, Dave Crocker wrote: >>>> Actually, I don't think this is even a mostly correct statement - >>>> that AD select chairs. >>> >>> It is a long-standing, simple, objective, unvarying management fact of >>> IETF procedure: ADs hire and fire wg chairs. >> >> The AD's do have the final say. No question. But "select" implies >> that the own the entire process of creating and staffing a WG. Nope. > > They do "own" it; that's a formal truth. > > That they often delegate details and concur with self-organizing choices > means nothing, in terms of their authority. But it might mean something in terms of the discussion at hand. If the ADs are concurring with self-organizing choices as opposed to selecting WG chairs, then they aren't really imposing a "looks like me" bias into the selection process. Dan.