Re: IETF Diversity Question on Berlin Registration?

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At 01:38 PM 4/29/2013, Ted Lemon wrote:
On Apr 29, 2013, at 1:08 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> If raising awareness and sensitivity
> isn't enough to get people to think about and make decisions
> differently

Statistical analysis shows that even when peoples' awareness is raised, biases continue to exist, not because the people are bad people, but because cognitive biases are simply not affected by "consciousness raising" alone.   So IMHO at least, what we are looking for here is not consciousness-raising, but some method of determining if we are indeed suffering from cognitive biases here, and if so, some method for actually addressing the problem.


Yup.  The problem here is that the sample set of "leadership" positions is so small its difficult to get any reasonable measure one way or the other.   When you start mixing and matching gender, race, citizenship etc into the pot as possible determiners it just gets worse.

The normal measure for determining whether one population is distinct from another appears to be the Chi Squared test. 

Throwing in a matrix of

            WG Chairs     IAB/IESG Members
Male         187             25
Female        15             1

And running the calculation ( http://www.quantpsy.org/chisq/chisq.htm) using the Yates' values (because the sample size is so small), there is a 79.13% chance that any observed differences in the composition of the two groups is solely due to statistical variations.

And playing off of John's message, if you look around 2005 when there were 4 female members of the IAB and IESG (and assuming the same composition of WG chairs), that calculation yields  something 31.4% - or 2 chances in 3 that the differences were due to something other than statistical variations.

When I look at this as a pure numbers problem, I'm unable to say there is a cognitive bias in the selection process and in fact the numbers would argue against being able to say that without a much larger set of IAB/IESG members.

Mike
 


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