The problem with this argument is that it appears that we have a choice between "limited knowledge of congestion control" and "an empty seat". Which one is more likely to be able to learn about it? Margaret On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> "Mary" == Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > > Mary> And, I continue to support Sam's position as well. To me the > Mary> question at hand is whether it will do more harm to fill the > Mary> position with someone that doesn't have the specific expertise > Mary> that his being sought than to leave the position unfilled. > Mary> Having dealt with the exact same issue when I was Nomcom > Mary> chair, I thoroughly understand the issue at hand. And, > Mary> certainly, there was a lot of criticism of the choice of the > Mary> Nomcom I chaired, but we really are between a rock and a hard > Mary> place yet again. > > I think it would be really useful to get someone like Lars or the chair > of the tcpm working group to comment on how much congestion control > experience we're talking about as a requirement. > > When I read Lars's messages, I'm not actually sure he and I are > disagreeing. > > There's a lot of things it could mean for the IESG to have congestion > control expertise.