>>>>> "Mary" == Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@xxxxxxxxx> writes: Mary> And, I continue to support Sam's position as well. To me the Mary> question at hand is whether it will do more harm to fill the Mary> position with someone that doesn't have the specific expertise Mary> that his being sought than to leave the position unfilled. Mary> Having dealt with the exact same issue when I was Nomcom Mary> chair, I thoroughly understand the issue at hand. And, Mary> certainly, there was a lot of criticism of the choice of the Mary> Nomcom I chaired, but we really are between a rock and a hard Mary> place yet again. I think it would be really useful to get someone like Lars or the chair of the tcpm working group to comment on how much congestion control experience we're talking about as a requirement. When I read Lars's messages, I'm not actually sure he and I are disagreeing. There's a lot of things it could mean for the IESG to have congestion control expertise.