Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward running code...

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And I will strongly oppose any IETF policy that treats commercial or proprietary code differently from Open Source code.

Out mantra is "running code". We try to stay out of people's business models.

The presence of a implementation is a useful measure. The presence of interoperability between two independent implementations is clearly a much better measure. But reading the code is not a good measure of the spec. An implementer familiar with the discussions in the WG is likely to get right tings that are under-specified. Such an implementation does not tell us anything about the quality of the spec. Should we require an implementation done from the spec without talking to the authors or WG? That would measure the spec better. But would seem to be an unreasonable requiremet.

he IETF, to the degree it wants to encourage something, wants to encourage implementation. It ought to be up to the implementors whether they see value in an open source, closed source, or some other form of implementation.

One could argue that it does not matter, since the experiment is not going to change anything. But I will assume that it matters, and will change something. If so, it should be "running code" that is the issue.

Yours,
Joel

PS: "Free" for whatever definition of "Free"distinct from Open Source the suggester meant, would seem to be completely irrelevant to the IETF.

On 12/3/2012 12:06 PM, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote:
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On 12/03/2012 08:54 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote:

On 12/03/2012 04:41 PM, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote:
I support this idea, but I think that free software should also be
considered as part of this experiment (free software and open source are
not synonymous). Using the acronym FOSS and defining it as Free or Open
Source Software in the document would achieve this.

Fair point. OTOH, there are folks who want to not require open-source too.
For now, I'd gone with "ideally open-source." As I said to Sam, let's deal
with that, if need be, at IETF LC.

OK, but note that I will oppose for this experiment the use of software that
is not either available in source form or accompanied with a conformance test
suite.


In the meantime, I've posted -01 [1] with a bunch of changes. Do let me
know if I forgot to ack someone and as before all comments (inevitable,
this being a process thing;-) are very welcome.

Thanks, S.

[1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farrell-ft-01



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