Perhaps I did, but I am talking about Working Group Drafts "1.1. What is a Working Group Draft? Documents under development in the IETF community are distributed as Internet Drafts (I-D). Working groups use this mechanism for producing their official output, per Section 7.2 of [RFC2418] and Section 8.3 of [RFC4677] and [ID-Info]. The convention for identifying an I-D formally under the ownership of a working group is by the inclusion of "ietf" in the second field of the I-D filename and the working group name in the third field, per Section 7 of [ID-Guidelines]. That is: draft-ietf-<wgname>-... " from draft-crocker-id-adoption /as On 02/12/2012 22:12, Melinda Shore wrote: > But the other one is that you seem to be using "working group > draft" and "working group item (deliverable?)" interchageably, and > I really don't think they're the same thing at all.