Right. See RFC 4144. Thanks, Donald ============================= Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I think that we haven't done a sufficiently good job of >> acculturating newer participants and that can probably make >> the organization look more opaque and closed than it actually >> is. Most (but not all) working groups don't have enough help >> with document review, and I think that's probably the fast >> path to agency within the IETF. Being a body in a chair at a >> meeting is not. > > > [MB] Exactly! That's what I did when I first started participating in IETF. > I would review documents and comment on the mailing. I also would > volunteer to take meeting minutes as that really does force you to pay > attention to the meeting and not spend the meeting reading email or playing > solitaire. Or, volunteer to at least follow the jabber room. Those are all > extremely important for working group effectiveness. [/MB] >> >> >> Melinda