Randy, It's not bitching, it self criticism. I think that the IETF thinks that it is very open but in reality it could do better. And about your suggestion, it is my todo list. Regards, as On 10/11/2012 06:14, Randy Bush wrote: > arturo, > > many of us have the message that you think the ietf should meet in alyc. > so qui bitching, find a locale/hotel, a host, and the connectivity in > somewhere not too hard to reach (i.e. not a puddle-jumper for the last > hour). then propose it for one or more of dates which are open. > > i'll leave my biases out of it, but there are many lovely cities in > south america which i would love to see again. of course, all i will > see is the inside of a frelling hotel, but that's life i guess. > > randy