> > But, as soon as a country says "if you have a > > passport from X, you aren't getting in, don't even bother to > > apply for a visa", they should be off our list of possibilities. It is sad to hear this. I actually never heard such restrictions for people travelling to Turkey. BTW: A lot of countries, including Israel, don't need a visa for Turkey. For others it is technically a non-issue to get it at the border. Beside many European cities there are direct flights to Istanbul from: Los Angeles, Washington, Chicago, New York, Beijing, Tokyo, Seoul, Bangkok, and Tel Aviv. Cheers, Mehmet > -----Original Message----- > From: ext Ole Jacobsen (ole) [mailto:ole@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:48 PM > To: John C Klensin > Cc: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon); Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich); ext > Geoff Mulligan; Richard Shockey; ietf@xxxxxxxx; dcrocker@xxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management granularity) > > Yes, and sadly that rules out really good venues such as Kuala Lumpur, quite possibly > the least expensive (hotel wise) suitable location in Asia. > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor & Publisher > http://cisco.com/ipj > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 9 Aug 2012, at 13:42, "John C Klensin" <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Let me say that a different way. We sometimes have to tolerate > > countries, like the US, who a fussy about visas or immigration > > procedures for people coming from specific other countries. I > > wish we didn't. But, as soon as a country says "if you have a > > passport from X, you aren't getting in, don't even bother to > > apply for a visa", they should be off our list of possibilities. > > > > john > > > > > > --On Thursday, August 09, 2012 22:22 +0200 "Sprecher, Nurit (NSN > > - IL/Hod HaSharon)" <nurit.sprecher@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> Istanbul, Dubai, and similar places will not allow all of us > >> in the community to participate in the meetings.... > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On > >> Behalf Of Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich) > >> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:20 PM > >> To: ext Geoff Mulligan; Ole Jacobsen > >> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx; dcrocker@xxxxxxxx; Richard Shockey > >> Subject: RE: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management > >> granularity) > >> > >> Why not consider Istanbul? It's another nice harbor city. > >> > >> Has a series of world class hotels like Grand Hyatt, Hilton, > >> InterContinental, Radisson Blu but also less expensive hotels, > >> close to each other. > > > > > > > >