Let me say that a different way. We sometimes have to tolerate countries, like the US, who a fussy about visas or immigration procedures for people coming from specific other countries. I wish we didn't. But, as soon as a country says "if you have a passport from X, you aren't getting in, don't even bother to apply for a visa", they should be off our list of possibilities. john --On Thursday, August 09, 2012 22:22 +0200 "Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)" <nurit.sprecher@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Istanbul, Dubai, and similar places will not allow all of us > in the community to participate in the meetings.... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich) > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:20 PM > To: ext Geoff Mulligan; Ole Jacobsen > Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx; dcrocker@xxxxxxxx; Richard Shockey > Subject: RE: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management > granularity) > > Why not consider Istanbul? It's another nice harbor city. > > Has a series of world class hotels like Grand Hyatt, Hilton, > InterContinental, Radisson Blu but also less expensive hotels, > close to each other.