Yes, and sadly that rules out really good venues such as Kuala Lumpur, quite possibly the least expensive (hotel wise) suitable location in Asia. Ole J. Jacobsen Editor & Publisher http://cisco.com/ipj Sent from my iPhone On 9 Aug 2012, at 13:42, "John C Klensin" <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Let me say that a different way. We sometimes have to tolerate > countries, like the US, who a fussy about visas or immigration > procedures for people coming from specific other countries. I > wish we didn't. But, as soon as a country says "if you have a > passport from X, you aren't getting in, don't even bother to > apply for a visa", they should be off our list of possibilities. > > john > > > --On Thursday, August 09, 2012 22:22 +0200 "Sprecher, Nurit (NSN > - IL/Hod HaSharon)" <nurit.sprecher@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Istanbul, Dubai, and similar places will not allow all of us >> in the community to participate in the meetings.... >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich) >> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:20 PM >> To: ext Geoff Mulligan; Ole Jacobsen >> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx; dcrocker@xxxxxxxx; Richard Shockey >> Subject: RE: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management >> granularity) >> >> Why not consider Istanbul? It's another nice harbor city. >> >> Has a series of world class hotels like Grand Hyatt, Hilton, >> InterContinental, Radisson Blu but also less expensive hotels, >> close to each other. > > > >