On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 14:23, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2/17/12 2:18 PM, Chris Grundemann wrote: >>> *and I happen to know the person who is doing the agreeing* >> >> I keep hearing statements along these lines and it's a bit >> unnerving. Either participation in the IETF is open, or it isn't. >> When a person's opinion/view/thoughts/words/etc. are judged >> exclusively by "do I know this person" then you have an Old Boys >> Club, not an open body. > > Chris, I think Pete meant that if he happens to know the personal > context of the person who says "+1" then he can impute some meaning to > it (because he knows the person has been following the discussion, > knows what that person's concerns have been in past threads, etc.). He > is not saying that you need to be part of the club in order to gain a > hearing, only that if he doesn't know you then a mere +1 carries less > (or no) weight with him. I did not mean to call Pete (or anyone else) out directly, as I am sure many/most individuals commenting here have the best intentions. I did want to respond to what seems to be a common sentiment that has appeared in this thread (and elsewhere previously) regarding new or quiet participants vs. long time active participants. Hopefully my concern is unwarranted. Cheers, ~Chris > > Peter > > - -- > Peter Saint-Andre > https://stpeter.im/ > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk8+xVsACgkQNL8k5A2w/vx8UwCgptyPIxtXJH2+xexpuFGzoO/d > To0An2IF6fuHcLe0IYLYtEGRZ1xjcsxu > =rUY5 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- @ChrisGrundemann http://chrisgrundemann.com _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf