-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2/17/12 2:18 PM, Chris Grundemann wrote: >> *and I happen to know the person who is doing the agreeing* > > I keep hearing statements along these lines and it's a bit > unnerving. Either participation in the IETF is open, or it isn't. > When a person's opinion/view/thoughts/words/etc. are judged > exclusively by "do I know this person" then you have an Old Boys > Club, not an open body. Chris, I think Pete meant that if he happens to know the personal context of the person who says "+1" then he can impute some meaning to it (because he knows the person has been following the discussion, knows what that person's concerns have been in past threads, etc.). He is not saying that you need to be part of the club in order to gain a hearing, only that if he doesn't know you then a mere +1 carries less (or no) weight with him. Peter - -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk8+xVsACgkQNL8k5A2w/vx8UwCgptyPIxtXJH2+xexpuFGzoO/d To0An2IF6fuHcLe0IYLYtEGRZ1xjcsxu =rUY5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf