On 1/25/2012 11:57 PM, SM wrote: > Hi Adrian, > At 21:48 25-01-2012, Adrian Farrel wrote: >> Why is Qian Sun still listed on the front page as an author. Wouldn't >> it be more >> appropriate to move the name to the Acknowledgements section where the >> text >> could read... > > As editorship is a WG Chair decision, it is up to the SIEVE WG Chairs to > comment on why Qian Sun is still listed on the front page as an author. > >> Some of the text of this document was provided by Qian Sun who >> violated IETF IPR >> process by not disclosing related IPR that he had also authored and so >> is not >> listed as a named author of this document. > > The above text does not mention company affiliation. > > There is the following in the text in IPR statements: > > "Note: The individual submitting this template represents and > warrants that he or she is authorized by the Patent Holder to > agree to the above-selected licensing declaration." > > The name provided in the IPR statement is "Director of licensing". > > The violation has a negative impact on the IETF (see comment from Dave > Crocker on this thread). It raises questions which should not be asked. > > Regards, > -sm It actually speaks to why total transparency is needed. Anytime anyone submits anything they need to disclose who they are and who they represent. What authority they have and this is a serious issue since it has legal ramifications. The IETF has long ignored these requirements by claiming it was too upright for those types of controls to be needed and clearly that simply is not true. IMHO - this is the reason that anyone can ask anyone else who they are representing here. The IETF has no "covert participation" exceptions as far as I know and in the world if legally protect-able IP everything has to be defined. T > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > -- Todd S. Glassey This is from my personal email account and any materials from this account come with personal disclaimers. Further I OPT OUT of any and all commercial emailings. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf