Re: IPv6 not operational (was Re: Consensus Call: draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request)

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Not sure why rfc1981 PMTUD was never fixed. I've repeatedly tried to
suggest to just forget about PMTUD for IP multicast, and i have never
come across a good use case to justify MTU > 1280 for IP multicast
across the Internet.

We did manage to get section 11.1 into rfc 3542 though. It's a little
bit long due to committee design, but i was hoping it was sufficient to avoid
the problem by default. It recommends sender side MIN_MTU fragmentation
by default for IP multicast sent into IPv6 sockets.

If folks see IPv6 multicast > 1280 as a
real problem in deployments, pleae let me know. It would either indicate
socket stacks not observing rfc3542 or intentionally badly written
applications.

Cheers
    Toerless

> Daryl Tanner wrote:
> 
> > The IPv6 "chickens and eggs" discussion could (and probably will) go on
> > forever:
> >
> > service provider ->  no content
> 
> > IPv6 is the right answer,
> 
> Wrong.
> 
> IPv6 is not operational, which is partly why most service
> providers refuse it.
> 
> For example, to purposelessly enable multicast PMTUD, RFC2463
> (ICMPv6) mandates routers generate ICMPv6 packet too big
> against multicast packets, which causes ICMPv6 packet
> implosions, which is not operational.
> 
> For further details, see my presentation at the last APNIC:
> 
> 	How Path MTU Discovery Doesn't work
> 	http://meetings.apnic.net/__data/assets/file/0018/38214/pathMTU.pdf
> 
> 						Masataka Ohta
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